hello again Al and everyone,
(see * below for my replies)
Al Iverson wrote:
If I understand correctly, the issue is bounces being distributed to
list members, yes?
* Yes, that's right.
Is the list locked so that only members can post? Verified by email
* Yes, indeed so.
Can you post one of those bounces to a text file, just like you did
with the example post?
* I don't have one to hand at present, but could generate one. They
appear to be the same kind of mail delivery failure notifications that
you would receive from a personal mail to a dead or over quota address,
for example. The majority of the error mails I'm referring to appear to
be posted by the mail daemon on the list hosting's site. A smaller
amount appear to come directly from the mail daemon of the failing address.
My thoughts would be to change the return path as to not be the list
posting address, or to change the list so that only members may post.
* Yes, I'm trying to create the option to change the Return-Path (or
at least force in an overall specific one for all lists) with my
previously described efforts. It's these coding efforts I've reached a
dead end with because I have taken my non-knowledge of php to the utmost
If you're still seeing the issues after that happens, then it feels
like you have some list members with a wonky MTA or MUA that is doing
some bad stuff. I see that often enough on our mailings (avg 1-2 mil a
day) that we had to put some extensive automation in place to handle
misdirected bounces, as well as the usual other garbage like out of
* Absolutely, once I've achieved my aims above I can assess the
issue (I'm already aware of) where some mail servers don't acknowledge
the actual desired Return-Path.
It could also be caused by some poorly-designed spam filter, that's
helpfully trying to bounce perceived spam, but is parsing the headers
wrong and sending it to the wrong person (though in a situation like
that, there's really not a right person to send it to; a spam filter
like that does little more than pound innocents with misdirected spam
* Sure, presumably a real possibility.
* Many thanks again for anything further,
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