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Subject: Re: [Fwd: EFF Mailing List Query]
From: David Shaw <dshaw @ jabberwocky . com>
Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 18:11:02 -0500
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On Sun, Feb 23, 2003 at 03:19:18PM -0700, Bob Bish wrote:
> At 03:16 PM 2/23/2003, J C Lawrence wrote:
> >The point where the confusion seems to enter is that email is not a
> >subscriber business.  To send email to a node doesn't require a prior
> >relationship asides from simple IP routability.  As such the sender of
> >an email _is_ trespassing, knowingly, and with conscious intent.
> >However, the critical difference between spam and other email is that
> >one has the reasonable if generic expectation of being welcomed by the
> >recipient.
> 
>    Then you'd better start fighting junk mail and telephone solicitors as 
> well.

That analogy doesn't hold.  A more proper analogy would be fighting
postage-due junk mail, and telephone solicitors calling collect.  With
spam, the recipient pays (or recipient network pays, and passes the
cost along).

It's like getting telemarketing calls on your cell phone.

David

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